Tag Archive: OSAS

You CAN forfeit your salvation.  You do NOT have the security of being ‘once saved always saved’, independent of your future choices and actions.  But people really misunderstand what this is saying!  It is not a matter of God turning His back on you the first time you sin, and abandoning you!!

‘If we believe not, [yet] he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.’  (2 Timothy 2:13)

Unintentional sin is also ‘covered’, if we are doing our best to be obedient to God and walk with Him.

‘[There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.’  (Romans 8:1)

When we stumble and sin, the Holy Spirit shows us that we have sinned, and we repent.  (If we don’t, then that is the same as willfully sinning.)  Stumbling and repenting is covered too.

‘My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous’  (1 John 2:1)

(Notice this verse DOESN’T say ‘Jesus death COVERED you’ (past tense).  It says that we HAVE AN ADVOCATE with the Father.  Jesus WILL PLEAD our case before Him (future tense).)

But, here is how it works that one can lose their salvation . . .

WILLFUL sin (or willfully not repenting when the Holy Spirit shows you you’ve sinned) is what causes the problem.

‘For if we sin WILLFULLY after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins‘  (Hebrews 10:26)

The Bible tells us that he who sins is slave to sin.  Sin is deceitful.  It has a power of its own.  Once we sin, the power of sin over us usually persuades us to sin more and more.  The only thing to counterbalance that is the Holy Spirit.  But when a Christian willfully sins, they are ALREADY ignoring the Holy Spirit as it works in their heart and tries to persuade them not to sin.

The Holy Spirit, in a Christian’s life, guides and empowers them to walk in righteousness.  The Holy Spirit is God.  When we resist and disobey the Holy Spirit, we are resisting and disobeying God.  Repeated sin . . . repeatedly ‘quenching’ the Holy Spirit . . . will lead to hardness of the heart.  If that heart is not broken, and the person doesn’t repent, eventually their heart will become hardened to the point that the Holy Spirit can no longer reach them.  (Their conscience ‘seared with a hot iron’.)  We know that . . .

‘No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him . . . ‘  (Jesus, John 6:44)

Once our heart becomes hardened to where the Holy Spirit cannot reach us, we can no longer experience godly sorrow over our sins, no longer be brought to repentance, no longer be reconciled to God!

In all of this, God remains blameless.  Throughout all this, the Holy Spirit pleads with us and shows us our sinfulness.  Meanwhile God, our loving Father, chastens us by bringing difficult circumstances into our lives, to bring us back to our senses.

‘For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.’  (Hebrews 12:6-8)

The fault never lies with God.  The problem is the power of sin over those who practice it, and the hardening of the heart by the lack of repentance on our part.

But after thy HARDNESS and IMPENITENT HEART treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God’  (Romans 2:5)

If you choose to willfully sin, resist the Holy Spirit, and spurn all God’s attempts to turn you back to righteousness, you cannot fall back on the Scripture that says:

‘And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father’s hand.’  (John 10:28-29)

You can’t claim that someone ‘plucked you out of God’s hand’ when it was YOU who made the choice to willfully sin!

Additional Scriptures:

For [it is] impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put [him] to an open shame.

For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:  But that which beareth thorns and briers [is] rejected, and [is] nigh unto cursing; whose end [is] to be burned.‘  (Hebrews 6:4-8)

‘For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

For we know him that hath said, Vengeance [belongeth] unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.  It is] a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.’  (Hebrews 10:26-31)

‘For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.  For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known [it], to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.’  (2 Peter 2:21)

I talk a lot about how the preTrib Rapture, Easy Grace, and Once Saved Always Saved doctrines are wrong.  I say that they preach ‘another gospel’ about ‘another Jesus’ and produce (so-called, self-professed) ‘Christians’ that are really more accurately called unconverted believers.  One such person recently (mockingly) asked me:

“So….how do you live exactly?? Do you know without a doubt where you would go if you died right now? or do you have some unconfessed sin in your life that wouldn’t allow you in heaven….like maybe anger that i detected in your last comment??If i believed the way you do along with catholics, coc, aog, and all the other RELIGIONS, i’d be repenting and trying to get saved every 5 min because i might say an idle word and Jesus could come or i could die the next second. No peace….”

First of all, unless one blasphemes the Holy Spirit, they are not going to ‘lose’ their salvation in 5 minutes.  ‘Lose your salvation’ is a term that this person uses, but I don’t like that term because it is misleading.  It gives the impression of a person setting something down and forgetting where they put it . . . or maybe that someone has taken it away.  It is a passive term that doesn’t convey any responsibility for what happened.  No one can separate us from God.  But we CAN separate ourselves from God.  Therefore, I believe it is more accurate to say that someone can FORFEIT their salvation.

God has given each of us free will, and that is not something that He takes away from us, once we become a Christian.  (Paul told of different people who had turned away from Christianity.  We ALWAYS have the option to stop living for God.)  Let me make it clear first, that if we are walking with Christ, his grace covers us from sins we commit without realizing.  His death covers all our sins, as long as we CONTINUE walking with Him.  But He doesn’t cover our sins if we turn away.  Now I’m not going to split hairs over what it means to turn away–how long a person can backslide without forfeiting their salvation.  That is a heart matter, and only God knows our hearts.  I DO know that we are warned in Scripture, many times, in many ways, to not turn away.

Free will is also why Satan works through deception.  He cannot SNATCH us out of God’s hand–no one can.  But if he can cause us to WALK AWAY of our own free will, and if we don’t turn back, then he has accomplished what he hoped for.  Make no mistake, God DOES allow our faith to be tested, to see if it is genuine.  Adam and Eve sinned, and the devil deceived them, but he was clever enough to be sure that the way he did it didn’t violate their free will, so they had to bear the blame.

Even though we have our own free will, when we become Christians we commit ourselves into God’s hands for safekeeping.  He will not let us slip away.  He will not cast us away because we commit a sin.  Once we become a Christian, His Spirit lives inside of us.  He will reason with us when we are struggling with sin.  He will give us the power to overcome it, and a way out of temptation.  He will warn us when we go wrong.  But if we don’t listen to His Spirit inside us, warning us, then we are guilty of willful sin.

When we sin willfully and don’t repent, God chastises us.  Every good father disciplines his children, God is no exception.  But if we remain stiffnecked and don’t repent, if we continue to ignore His discipline, eventually our heart becomes so hardened by sin that His Holy Spirit can no longer bring us to a place of remorse and repentance.  When we get to that point, our fate is sealed.  This is not something that happens in five minutes . . . maybe not even in five weeks, or five months.

Do I live in fear?  No.  In fact, it wasn’t until I realized that God loved me even when I was in the midst of my sin . . . and that He loved me enough that He would LET me walk away, if I really wanted to, that I really came to trust Him.  When I was still believing the false gospel and OSAS doctrine, I backslid more than once.  I can tell you from experience that I ALWAYS knew I was in danger.  It was THEN that I lived in fear, because the Holy Spirit clearly warned me of what was on the horizon

‘For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,   But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.’  (Hebrews 10:26-27)

With that misunderstanding hopefully out of the way, I will tell you what my life is like now . . .

I rarely think about, or speak about hell.  My personal belief is that trying to motivate people to love God by scaring them to death about hell only produces bad fruit.  God isn’t mocked.  He is looking for people who will worship Him in Spirit and in truth–not people who come to Him merely for a ‘get out of jail free card’.  But that’s another subject, perhaps for another post.

I walk in fellowship with God daily.  I pray all the time, about all sorts of things.  I feel strength, faith, and courage inside me, from the presence of the Holy Spirit.  Since I became a (fully converted) Christian, I am a new creation.  I have a new heart, and I have the mind of Christ.  I don’t spend my time being totally self-absorbed.  I don’t sin every five minutes.  (Incidentally, being angry is not a sin.  God is angry with the wicked every day.  Jesus was often angry with hypocrites.  Anger without cause is wrong.  Sinning because you’re angry isn’t excused.  But anger itself isn’t wrong.)

When I realize I have sinned (and it doesn’t take long, because the Holy Spirit lets me know), I repent.  I don’t repent because I’m scared of going to hell.  I repent because I hate sin.  I repent because I realize I’ve offended God.  I hate the break in fellowship that I feel, and knowing I’ve displeased Him.  Because I have a new heart, I don’t want to sin.  I hate the things God hates, and I love the things God loves.  I walk in peace–deep peace–daily, because I’m walking in the presence of God and know that we are in agreement.

Yes, I know without a doubt where I would go if I died now.  No, there’s no unconfessed, unforgiven sin in my life right now.  As I said before, when I sin, I know right away.  And when I know, I repent.  If the sin is a bad attitude or unforgiveness, sometimes I have to ask God to help me with it–and He does.  But I no longer try to hide my sins.  I know that God is my Father, who loves me–not some angry judge who’s waiting for me to mess up so He can reject me.  I know He wants to help me overcome my sins, and doesn’t condemn me for them when I confess and desire to turn away from them.

Although mainstream churchianity talks about  Christianity being a relationship, not a religion (and that is true), most mainstream ‘Christians’ don’t really know God.  They imagine they belong to a ‘God’ who doesn’t require much from them, and bends to their will.  The ‘God’ they suppose they have a relationship with, is a ‘God’ of their own making.  They reject the parts of the Bible that offend them.  They reject the parts of God’s character that they don’t understand, and they lack the fear of God.  They may believe SOME of what they know about Him, and they may desire the things that He provides, but most of them are unwilling to make the sacrifice that He requires. The biggest proof of all is that the image they are being conformed to (as evidenced by their actions and attitudes) is not the image of God.

No one comes to God standing on two feet with their pride and self-esteem intact.  Awe at the power, position, and holiness of God, and the realization of our sinfulness and unworthiness, drops us to our knees.  We come to Him broken and sorry.  We begin our walk with Him in humility, gratitude and repentance.  We continue it the same way.  Arrogance is not a fruit of the Holy Spirit.  Neither is ‘self-esteem’.  Our worth is in Him, not in ourselves.  All our righteousness is as filthy rags.  That doesn’t just mean what we DO, but also who we ARE, in ourselves, without Him.  The strength and assurance I have now is not rooted in myself–it’s because I know who leads me by the hand.

‘Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near [me] with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me. . . ‘  (Isaiah 29:13)

Why have the churches become so much like the world?  My firm opinion is that they are populated with many people who have not been born again.  Repentance is necessary to conversion, but it is no longer preached.  Instead, people are told that all you have to do is believe in Jesus to be saved.  Well . . . that puts them in the same camp with the devil.

‘Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.’  (James 2:19)

Jesus tell us that there will be many people that believe they are Christians, that He will turn away.

‘Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.’  (Matthew 7:22-23)

Either these people were wolves in sheep’s clothing and are trying to con Jesus on judgment day . . . or they are people who believed in Jesus, whose faith in Him produced works, but who are rejected for some other reason.  The last words of the verse give a clue: ‘ye that work iniquity’.

I believe these are the same people spoken of in 2nd Thessalonians 2:10-12

‘And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:  That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.’

The devil will use the ‘deceivableness of unrighteousness’ . . . to ensnare them.  Unrighteousness (sin) deceives people.  The people spoken about here, that will receive strong delusion from God and be damned, are people who practice sin.  The passage confirms this–‘they . . . who . . . had pleasure in unrighteousness’.

My belief, is that part of the strong delusion is that many people will believe they are saved, even while they continue to live in sin.  And that the truth they won’t receive or believe, is that they must repent to be saved, and then live in obedience to God to continue ‘abiding in Him’.

‘And he called [unto him] the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits; . . . And they went out, and preached that men should repent.   And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed [them].’  (Mark 6:7, 12-13)

‘Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.’  (Revelation 14:12)

‘If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast [them] into the fire, and they are burned.’  (John 15:6)

Those who receive this truth: that being reconciled to God requires repentance and obedience, can be saved.  Those who won’t receive the truth . . . who are only looking for a way to avoid hell (fire insurance, if you will), will be ensnared in the trap.

‘Whoso diggeth a pit shall fall therein: and he that rolleth a stone, it will return upon him.’  (Proverbs 26:27)

‘Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.  For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.’  (Galatians 6:7-8)

Those who want to ‘have their cake and eat it too’ . . . who want to escape the fires of hell, yet live like the devil . . . will be the ones pleading with God on judgment day.

‘Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.’  (Matthew 7:21)

‘What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?   For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.’  (1 Corinthians 6:19-20)

Those who mock God’s grace by attempting to get eternal life without having a change of heart, by insincerely making a profession of faith with their mouth while denying it by their actions . . . they will get what they deserve.

‘Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?’  (2 Corinthians 13:5)